Taylor Swift and Harry Styles, who dated from late 2012 to early 2013, made headlines for their friendly run-in at the 2021 Grammys Sunday. While neither Swift nor Styles have spoken about their reunion, Entertainment Tonight got details from a source about what their relationship is like now, eight-plus years since things ended.

The source said that actually, things between Styles and Swift have privately been good for some time now. The two “have been cordial and fine for a while now. [Taylor and Harry] have both really matured since they dated and respect each other’s careers,” the source said.

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For context, things between Swift and Styles were much more strained publicly back in 2013 in the months following their breakup. Swift got media attention at the MTV Video Music Awards for seemingly mouthing an expletive when Styles and One Direction appeared on stage. The couple’s breakup was documented in the media after Swift was photographed leaving the couple’s New Year’s trip alone after a blowout fight allegedly ended their relationship.

But time healed the emotional wounds. Both Swift and Styles moved on and dated other people in the years since. Now, they’re both in different relationships: Swift has been with British actor Joe Alwyn for over four years, while Styles is newly dating actress Olivia Wilde.

Swift and Alwyn are doing great, by the way, Entertainment Tonight‘s source informed the outlet. They’re “very happy together” and in love, the source said, adding, “Taylor is so appreciative to have Joe in her life.”

And Styles signaled publicly that he had a lot of respect for Swift last March in an interview with Howard Stern. He spoke about exes writing songs about him and name-checked Swift for her song-writing talent: “I think about what it means to me to write a song about somebody else and for somebody else to do that, it’s like flattering, even if the song isn’t that flattering, you still spent time on it and ultimately, using Taylor as an example, she’s a great songwriter. So at least they’re good songs,” he said, via E! and Just Jared.

“The only time you really think, ’is this song too personal?’ is if you think about, ‘is this going to be really annoying for the other person?’ Because I do [care],” he finished.

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